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xx DEBUNKING PHIL SCHNEIDER
« Thread started on: Sep 21st, 2007, 06:04am »

Yes, it would seem odd to find an alien abudctee debunking someone or something but it's actually a necessity. We're not idiots so why should we allow some people out there to make us look like such. I'm certainly not and so when I see where someone in the UFO Community has fabricated lies for their own personal gratitude, then you had better believe that I'm going to stand up to the plate.

If you also see situations that you know not to be true, please take the time to state such. If it's a topic I haven't mentioned yet, then start a new thread and I'll help you along with your research.

The numerous lies and fabrications of Phil Schneider's are so multiple and so atrocious that they need to be explained away and this can simply be done looking at the dates and his age at time of death.

Before I begin on Phil Schneider, something else more recent has come to my attention that needs dismissing right off the bat. These are the kinds of things that keep conspiracy theories (including Phils) active and are just more lies piled up on the old ones.

There is a website called Phil Schneider Memorial. They're actually calling it a website for a murdered patriot. If Phil Schneider is a patriot of anything, he's a patriot of disinformation.

What this particular individual did who started this website after Phil's death is re-promoting the old Alien Digests who were assembled by another man named Ron Rummel. Mr. Rummel committed suicide by placing a gun in his mouth. Once again, they're calling it murder. At the top of the website it even states this here below.

Phil Schneider's best friend Ron Rummel published these periodicals until he was murdered on August 6, 1993.

Ron Rummel, the (again supposed - no proof of such) ex-air force intelligence agent who published Alien Digest, shot himself in the mouth with a pistol on August 6, 1993.


I could go full circle and show you how Phil Schneider was already wrapped up in the work of Ron Rummel in the 1990's that led to his lie riddled speeches. This would also show you more works of fiction that are printed as fact throughout the Internet such as the three volume series of The Universal Seduction Book, edited by Rev. Robert Hanzel, of the Aquarian Church of Universal Service, which nobody but Mr. Hanzel benefited from. Everything ended up in books after books after books from offshoots of the Aquarian Church. Because that whole batch of conspiracies, which also include Robert Hanzel, Paul Shockley and an individual named Creston (who is actually Ron Rummel) I'm going to cut to the quick. After doing so, only then I'll go into the depth of why Phil Schneider's words (EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM) need to be dismissed and removed from the realm of a conspiracy theory since they were nothing more then lies. One last thing I will mention is that all of the individuals above all live or work in McMinnville, Oregon. Just a little too coincidental for this me. McMinnville, Oregon is home to the famous Trent sighting. This I'll talk about as well since this UFO story from the 1950's, which is the platform that most UFO trekies lean on, especially if they live in Oregon. Even that UFO has been debunked many times.

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Phil Schneider was nothing more than a narcissistic liar and fabricator. The proof of Schneider's lies is in the math. Take Phil's age and his time on various jobs he claimed to do, certainly try and consider time at college for his supposed degrees, which never existed anyway so scratch the college time and you'll see that he would have been 17 years old when he went to work for the government. Phil stated that he worked at Dulce in 1979.

1979 - worked at Dulce
1947 - born
32 - Phils age while at Dulce
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1981 - Last job
1947 - born
34 - Age when Phil ceased working (went on SSI)
17 - Years Phil claimed he worked in government
17 - How old he would have been when he went to work in the government. Where are his college years in those 17 years? There aren't any however he claimed to be an Aerospace Engineer, Structural Engineer, Geological Engineer. Schneider is a mockery to the UFO Community. Just listen to that 1995 youtube of Phil's speech and see for yourself that he doesn't have a clue and dances around all over the place re-instilling old conspiracies of which half don't even exist and were the fabrications of others like William Cooper, etc. More importantly, what you didn't know was that while at Dulce, Phil simply worked for the Army Corp of Engineers and nothing more. This information is available through Social Security records as is everything else about Phil Schneider. The key here though is why didn't Phil ever say the words, "ARMY CORP OF ENGINEERS" in any of his speeches? Because he was hiding the truth amongst his many, many lies. Phil died by his own hands. If anything, that rubber hose around his neck (which wasn't a wire by the way) was put there by himself letting people think he was murdered because he was dieing anyway and he knew it. Schneider never let ANYONE ever see any of the supposed multi-thousand page government documents because they never existed. Instead, he went out in what was to look like a suicide so people would think differently. People like Schneider is what keeps the UFO Community from going forward. They make it look just a bit too kooky so NOBODY LISTENS to the truth when it is stated. We don't need these lies.

This following speech was actually Phil's last. One would think that after 31 previous speeches that he would have had his spiel down pat. However, it's as wishy washy as the rest of the speeches. It makes little to no sense and he bounces around like a rubber ball in a multitude of directions with really no substance on any one topic.

LISTEN TO THIS WHOLE SPEECH AND YOU DECIDE



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« Reply #1 on: May 26th, 2008, 12:32am »

I totally agree i have watched many of Phil Schneider videos and after close examination which i am qualified at i concluded it all to be Bullnuts , your evidence is proof enough well done it makes me sick to see these people prey on the gullible for profit or status how will real proof ever be taken seriously while Schneiders kind spread obvious lies
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 25th, 2008, 10:39pm »

It is very hard to tell who is lying and who isn't. I would not put it past the government to do something like this but also if it really was that "TOP SECRET" Why is it all over the internethuh I think if it was really classified information he would have been :taken care of: before he left the base ya knowhuh Does anyone else agree??
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« Reply #3 on: Aug 26th, 2008, 05:47am »

on Aug 25th, 2008, 10:39pm, Guest-bigD wrote:
It is very hard to tell who is lying and who isn't. I would not put it past the government to do something like this but also if it really was that "TOP SECRET" Why is it all over the internethuh I think if it was really classified information he would have been :taken care of: before he left the base ya knowhuh Does anyone else agree??


It's all over the Internet simply because people do not care to educate themselves. They'll read and listen to the Phil Schneider videos but they won't seek the negative because it goes against their beliefs.

It happens all of the time in the realm of UFOs and aliens.

Look at how many people still today believe the known hoax videos. They don't stop to see the proof that someone else has to offer they're just happy with what they know. The Alien Autopsy is one very good example. The individual who created the alien body for the film has come forward and proved that he built it and even showed how he did it and he does it for a living.

Dr. Reed is another very good example. He's a con artist and his lie of having an altercation with an alien in the forest was tripped up years ago but since he only recently (the past 6 months) started posting on YouTube, all of the newbies thinks it's the real deal. But yet that hoax was caught years ago.

I'm the last one to debunk anything but if I have proof - which in Phil's case I have plenty - then you better believe I'll going to share that info because honestly, I'm sick about so much conspiracy garbage on UFOs and alien topics that is just that - garbage.
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xx Re: DEBUNKING PHIL SCHNEIDER
« Reply #4 on: Oct 5th, 2008, 6:41pm »

on Oct 5th, 2008, 6:18pm, Guest-d9865 wrote:
You're "proof" is pretty "wishy washy" itself my friend. I watched several of his taped lectures where he clearly states he was born in 1940.


Philip Schneider (April 23, 1947 - January 17, 1996)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Schneider

Philip Schneider's life was certainly as controversial as his death. He was born on April 23, 1947 at Bethesda Navy Hospital.
http://www.ufodigest.com/mystery.html

Phil Schneider was born April 23, 1947 and died.......
http://www.ufo-blog.com/ufo-blog/2007/04/philip-schneider-murder-by-suicide.html

http://www.alienshift.com/id160.html
Philip Schneider (April 23, 1947 - January 1996) claimed to be

Philip Schneider's life was certainly as controversial as his death. He was born on April 23, 1947 at Bethesda Navy Hospital. Philip's parents
http://mosnas2.blogspot.com/2007/11/phil-schneider-alien-technology.html

Philip Schneider was born April 23, 1947 and died (many assume murdered) in January 1996.
http://www.livevideo.com/video/UKUFO/68BD93CDFEFA462C8CE03A45641B6B7B/ufo-philip-schneider-talks-o.aspx

http://www.sigh7ings.com/speakers/phil-schneider-area-51-lecture/
Philip Schneider was born April 23, 1947 and died (many assume murdered) in January 1996. Philip Schneider was

Philip Schneider (April 23, 1947 - January 17, 1996)
http://www.kevin-richards.org/philip_schneider.htm

Philip Schneider, an American, was born on April 23, 1947. His death on January 17, 1996
http://www.miraclehearts.com/2008/09/16/the-revelations-of-philip-schneider.html

Now there's about another 50 or so sites that state April 23, 1947 but I think you got the idea. As well, I mentioned it above - his social security records were made available after his death. His jobs, his birth - all of that was made available.
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xx Re: DEBUNKING PHIL SCHNEIDER
« Reply #5 on: Oct 5th, 2008, 6:43pm »

Phil Schneider never, ever clearly stated anything. He bounces around subject to subject - one sentence after another. He's a psychologist's dream. Talk about wishy washy. Phil Schneider was the epitome of wishy, washy, which is symptomatic of a narcissistic. He was a liar. Plain and simple.

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