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UFO CASTE SYSTEM


By, Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters

Anyone who scans the UFO literature will attest to the credibility given to a professional who witnesses a UFO --in contrast to the credibility extended to a regular middle class witness.

Scientists and debunkers ignore this 'common human' factor. These 'types' of witnesses are not even worth the bother of saying anything. Those that are not ignored are treated with disdain. In one instance a debunking TV show, when interviewing ET abductees treated them, and their experiences with nothing but contempt and smug remarks. We know researchers, even from the skeptical side of the UFO question, agree that many of these 'abductees suffer from acute stress directly related to what they feel has occured.

So here we have a group 'abductees', who are innocently suffering, for what ever reason you want to believe, being made the stuff of TV fodder by TV personalities, so they can suffer even more.

What has died inside of us?

NOT ONE BIT OF EMPATHY

SOUNDS LIKE MODERN TV AMERICA TO ME.
Sam Maranto 2007 MUFON Symposium "The O'Hare Airport & Tinley Park Sightings:

TINLEY PARK SIGHTINGS

We're seeing that many UFO researchers now spend their time with the 'High Level' connections, focusing on Insiders, and intelligence types.. Are you noticing it, too? Many just too busy to be bothered investigating the run-of-the-mill, everyday American UFO witness. There are some who prefer the never-ending labors of document mining the problem with this is the government has had decades to sanitize the most important documents or easily knows how and where to hid them.

( I still have to say I love reading their fascinating books: Dame you -- Richard Dolan and you also Timothy Good!) 

The Debunkers only address the middle class, everyday American citizen UFO reports when they are compelled to: when there is supporting evidence to the witnesses' claim. Debunker disdain for your average witness can be best described by the hideous smirks the Debunker Caste wears on prime time TV, as if to say 'These people are such idiots, how can you even entertain this level of discourse!' There they are, smirking away for the camera.

And they expect us to like it! They expect us to put up with this non-stop ridicule in the media. Why not? The Debunker Caste are only trying to save us from ourselves, yea right?

I find Ted Philips has really opened the door to just how detailed the everyday American middle class witness can be, and how unlikely it is that the witness from this group is pulling a hoax. Most of the well-documented trace cases happened to your average folks, the citizen witnesses who run the farms and live in rural areas. Rural America' seems a logical place for the ETs to park one of their vehicles, if they have to.

And then there's the negative profit motive: these average folks from rural America and other middle class witnesses are further distinguished by two factors: they're the folks who typically don't make a penny off what they report; and because they've had the courage to speak out, they're usually the butt of jokes. So it's these simple grass roots cases that continue to present the most compelling evidence of all, showing the reality of UFOs as solid, controlled objects.

Travis Watson is a case where his class prejudge the outcome before it ever really had a chance. It would have died in the stalls if it was for those 3 possible 'Perps' passing a 'Lie Detector' test including the question about the UFO. So some of it had to treated as true. In the end two 'Mental Health' professionals got Travis drunk and declared that it was a hoax, why? Because his family had witness other UFOs in the past. He was given a subsequent lie detector test shortly which he failed. Even though many present had said he really looked shaken, it was never even considered that this man had actually gone through the most traumatic experience imaginable.
Later on Travis, along with some of his co workers, volunteered for two separate test. The last polygraph test was very through. The test conducted by the top polygrapher in the country hired by a skeptic. All of them not only passed the test with flying colors they did it at a extremely high degree.

I have to mention Jaime Maussan & the wonderful UFO researchers south of our boarder who continually interviewed and have gather startling evidence from regular witness. Of course this again is considered by some inside and outside the UFO community with a type of class and even boarder indifference. It is the longest UFO flap in the history of UFOs including world wide.

The power of the regular people, their courage, and how they are treated brings to mind the Trent's case. Though they endured years of telephone calls and nasty accusations, they were steadfast about what they witnessed and photographed. Many of us remember how no-class Phillip Klass claimed shadows on a roof ledge in one of the photographs, indicated, they were lying about the 'time they took the photos', and, according to the infamous Klass, 'they took the photos much later in the day', so they wouldn't be caught by neighbors hanging the pie plate from wires in the back yard.

No evidence from the original negatives --which were carefully examined-- showed any possibility of wires. Also, as usual, a UFO researcher (Bruce Macabee) had to spend time to prove Klass wrong through science and though the researcher's own ingenuity. He disproved Klass's shadow theories quite handily, but Klasss' incorrect conclusion are quoted time and time again by debunkers hoping to earn bownie point with the uninformed.

Actually, later on someone did hoax a Trent photo and added a wire. Legit researchers then had to go back to the Trents' original negatives to prove this hoax photo was faked. Their neighbors all spoke highly of the Trents, but this testimony didn't matter to the debunkers.

Most recently the RRR group hosted on their blog a fake photo claiming it was the 'missing photo of the Trents'. What we saw was a Photoshopped version of the Trents' photo, intended to make the object look like a model. Think about it: hoaxing by a debunker on a photo they already think is a fake.

The mind boggles!

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« Reply #1 on: Nov 27th, 2007, 09:11am »

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THE ALIEN SCHTICK


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By, Joe Capp
November 26, 2007

A shtick (Yiddish: שטיק) (or schtick) is a comic theme or gimmick.
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It seems to me if you use a little common sense and apply it to the universe, the more intelligent the organism, the more complex is its humor.

When the neo-cons started to take over our country they had everything on their side. A non-ending war 'nationalism up the kazoo - the media - and the giant corporations.

What kind of force could possibly hope to stand up against all of this.

Was it a new Edward R. Morrow type journalist? Nooo!
A new George Washington leader? Noooo!
Maybe a caring Patrick Henry?
No, it was none of these!
It was your local television comedian.

Yes comedy satire can make such a powerful statement, it can and has, toppled governments. But comedy aimed at those in power, yet not understood by them, can be hilarious.

Some people of power are so superficial they have a type of 'comedy ignorance. Steven Colbert character of 'The Colbert Report' is a prime example of how people in power exhibited 'comedy ignorance'. This is a true story for those of you who haven't followed this show.

'The Colbert Report' is on 'The Comedy Channel'
http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_colbert_report/index.jhtml

Steven Colbert of 'The Colbert Report's' character had been invited to Presidents Bush's roast a televised 'tradition'. Bush's staff members who had set up the appearance of this great satirist had completely misconstrued his comedy. They thought he was a 'conservative comedian' poking fun at liberals.

They just didn't get 'it' he was doing a parody' a type of O'Reilly' all mouth, no facts talking head show.
Of course 'Colbert' pulls this off by continually praising the President on the one hand ' while on the other hand showing how foolish and dysfunctional his thinking is.
Bush's people were so dense they never got the meaning of the comedy till it was to late.

Hint:
When a President, or a 'Party' has no 'depth to their sense of humor; run for the hills before it's to late' dame it already to late.

Could it be ETs playing shtick we just don't get?

Moderator Comment: YES! No question in my mind, none whatsoever!

It is easy to see some ETs shtick in the history of reported UFO cases, that is,...if you're a little bent like me:

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The Setup:

O'Hare Airport, Chicago the ET critters park a 'speed cruise model' directly above a runway and below a cloud bank.
It hovers there spinning for ten minutes and then after a crowd of minds gather transfixed. They delivering the

Shtick:

Their speed demon UFO travels so fast upward it punches a clean hole up through the cloud bank. Humans watching see a perfect circle with the blue sky visible above. This is such a powerful maneuver it takes 8 minutes for the surrounding cloud bank to fill in the hole.

The reaction by the dumb humans:

When the news finally becomes public great intelligent scientific soothsayers explained what it had to be on TV!'A drum role please!

'Atmospheric Phenomenon!'

That's got to be a belly laugh all over this arm of the Milky Way.

Could these objects be part of a sense of humor we don't get?

Form Maussan & Garza DVD "NASA Missions & UFO Incidents" International UFO Congress 2006...See youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMXJDo-hQtY

ETS may have thumbed their noses at us; metaphorically speaking of course in the 50s. In the famous Washington DC. 1953 Case.UFOs were clearly recorded on radar and even visually.

These 'Craft Jockeys' would play 'cat and mouse' on our radar scopes. When we humans sent up our Jet fighters to intercept the UFOs, the UFOs didn't have to refuel, so they would quickly move off the scope 'only to appear again when the Jet's landed.

Even some grown crews and radar operators witness the blue lights. But the Jets never got close enough to see anything' that is until, the last time they went up and gave chased again. The Pilots were finally were able to make visual contact, but the UFOs had a great comeback; they surrounded one of the Jet interceptors and quickly closed in, which left the pilot, to say least, unnerved.

That is classic slapstick 'Shtick:

A guy tells his friend somebody is bothering his girlfriend, flexing his muscle the friend goes over only to protect her and finds himself surrounded by an angry gang ' he looks around swallows hard and says 'mommy'. It turns out they were just kidding.

A hoax can be a funny bit except when it's played on you, right?

That may hold true with ETS. Human and government reaction to UFOs could contain a decades of comedy night fodder on 'ACN' ('Alien Physic Network')

In the Betty & Barney Hill abduction incidents were reveled under hypnosis. Incidents involving aliens giving the Hills a 'book and then taking it back', telling Betty she would not remember anything and the ETs finding Barneys false teeth.'

Betty& Barney Hill had unimpeachable credentials. Could this whole thing been a goof pulled by young aliens on two people alone on the road.
Let us go back and find out.

After Betty & Barney were abducted and told to forget, they are returned by the ETS to their vehicle and are safely on their way.

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The aliens looking out from their ship start to laugh.

First alien to the second alien:
'Did you see her face when she asked for the book and I gave it her.'

Second Alien:
'Yea, she thought she was really going to get it; fat chance.'

They both laugh
Second Alien
'I thought the fight we stage was precious.'

First Alien:
'Yea that was good, and the 'forget everything' baloney was good also, but no one can top 'ELLE'!

Second Alien
'What did 'ELLE' do that was so great?'

First Alien:
'She pretended She didn't know what human false teeth were'.

Second Alien:
'Yep' you Can't top that.'

First Alien nods.

And how about that Swiss farmer Billy Myer you can't tell me that case doesn't lend itself to some funny bits. Farmer gets in touch with beautiful Alien Super Spiritual beings. These Aliens conduct 'displays' so the farmer gets some credibility and then the reality show begins.

If you read Bruce , who has absolutely no sense of humor his research into Billy Myers one of Billy's Videos seems to miss the comedic point.

One of 'Billy Myer' videos shows a 'Craft' which Billy was 'directed to film' by the ETS. The video shows a ship rocking back and forth like on a pendulum in front of a tree. Bruce decided it is probably hoaxed even though it seemed to be large.

But I can see these good looking aliens doing a funny bit, just jiving with old Billy:

First Alien:

'I just love it when they think were gods.'

Second Alien:
'Yep Billy Myers is easy. I am going to have him grow a beard; say between Moses and Isaiah. By the way I have idea for some more fun with this the poop people.'

First Alien:
Go ahead!

Second Alien:
'Well we take one of our craft, and we sway it back and forth over the central tree in the field while we bet Billy to film it. I bet you he won't even notice that we rock it like it's tied to a tree. Later humans will able to measure how big it is so we create an enigma. Then later after all cools down we steal the tree:

First Alien:
I don't get it?

Second Alien:
'Billy will bring the video back, show it around, somebody with smarts will claim it's a object hung by a rope and when they eventually go check for the tree, its of course years later, it won't even be there. We cloud the issue and have fun at the same time ' win - win situation.'

First Alien:
'I like the god thing better.'

Hey people - no one is funny all the time, not even the aliens.

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Announcement: "The Intruders Foundation" on Dec 15, 2007 will have a follow up on the "press conference" which was held and gained so much interest. UFO Media Matters will be there to do a follow-up of our own.

http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_events.html

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« Reply #2 on: Dec 4th, 2007, 08:50am »

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DEBUNKERS' DUMB EXPLANATIONS LIST


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Joseph Capp
December 2, 2007

While pilots make mistakes, unfortunately for the debunkers, some UFO reports by pilots are not mistakes.

When the debunkers are faced with aviation crew and fighter pilot testimony, they're in a bit of a fix.

The usual character assassinations don't work in the press when real live pilots are quoted. Next time you notice a pilot-sourced UFO report getting debunked, check it yourself: no character attacks'just faux science.

So let's go through the standard Debunkers' Dumb Explanations List:
Atmospheric Phenomenon, Miscellaneous
Moon
Sun
Balloon
Venus
Stars
Planets
Meteors
Space Junk

Now let's take a look at a few classic pilot witness stories and see if we can use any of these explanations.
Plane B-29 Bomber 18000 feet 1952 Lt. Coleman is watching the main radarscope'at 5:35am on the main radarscope, he spots a fast-moving target. He times it. The object is traveling 5,250 mph! As they check the scope to see if it is faulty, four other blips appear. The four blips also appear on the other scopes on the plane. As the objects approach the plane, Master Sergeant Bailey jumps up to stare out the cockpit. To his amazement, he sees a blue-lit object streak by. A second group is observed on the scope traveling at the same speed.

Then a third group appears and continues toward them on the scope. This time the navigator jumps up to watch 'two of the machines streak by'. Another group appears, but unlike the others, this group of objects heads straight for the bomber... The Captain holds his breath' the UFO crafts then slow down and fall in behind the bomber on the scope. Soon the group of five UFOs turns aside and picks up speed. But it isn't over yet. All crew watch the scopes as the five targets converge on a large blip 'a half-inch spot' on the scope, a 'huge' UFO target. Next, the five smaller targets merge with this object, and crew report how this massive UFO 'accelerated quickly' to over '9,000' miles an hour.

So what do you think: meteors' space junk' maybe Venus? I got it'it was ballooooon! No, the moon! Wait, wait: I got it' Thank God for plasma!

By the way, check the great book by Paul Hill, NASA Scientist:
Unconventional Flying Objects.
This report was released by the Air Force to Major Donald Keyhoe. No leaky, shadowy government figure here.

Two Air Force Colonels Flying a B-25 3:30PM
The colonels see three objects in a 'tight' flying formation. From the distance these look like F-86, in close formation, but they're flying too high -- against FAA regulations. In a 'matter of seconds' the 'aircraft' are close enough for the colonels to see details. The craft are 'bright silver delta wings with no tails and no canopy'. In another second, the delta wing UFO crafts make a sharp bank and shoot by the colonels' B-25. Speed estimated by both colonels is three times the speed of any F-86. The colonels are adamant these craft are not F-86s.

These craft are known as flying Triangles today, and witnessed all over the world.

May 27 1943 Halifax Bomber RAF Over Germany during bombing raid:

As pilot and Sergeant Corkcroft, co-pilot, are nearing their target when Captain Ray Smith is first to see an object stationary and slightly portside of their bomber. The object is slightly larger than the aircraft, 'silvery-gold, a well defined cylinder with several portholes evenly spaced along its side. The object hangs suspended in the air at a 45-degree angle. The crew watch in disbelief as the object stays in position for about 30 seconds then abruptly climbs out of sight'at an incredible speed, possibly 'several thousand' miles a hour. See 'Strange Company' by Keith Chester.

Multiple sightings case Simon Anderson investigated By Garza: Simon starts to see and film UFOs suddenly the RAF helicopter start to study Simon
International UFO Congress 2004 DVD Garza:

Moderator comment: SEE YOU TUBE at the top of this page.

It's amazing to me how the debunkers still hawk these same dumb explanations 70 years later. You could say these explanations are equivalent to your doctor basing your crucial diagnosis on just one symptom --and any symptom which disagrees with that diagnosis is excluded.

Good luck with that doctor.

So here we are at the end of 2007, with 'intelligent scientific minds' and Western nations boasting the highest populations of college-educated citizens ever'yet we're still accepting these same, tired explanations trotted out by the professional debunkers.

Hundreds of professional military and commercial pilots have reported unknown craft. Considering how pilots who report UFOs are treated, how many simply don't bother including what they see in their flight record?

Now for a personal account. I was cruising the eastern Caribbean when I discovered I was snorkeling with two pilots. Later, as we sat in the sun, I asked them if they had ever witnessed anything strange, like a UFO.

One of the pilots was a commercial airline passenger pilot, the other, a flight pilot. The passenger pilot replied in an incredulous tone: ' I've been flying for 20 years and I have never seen anything like that.' He was laughing when he said it.

The other pilot began to answer my question, but he was not laughing:
'I've been flying for 15 years'and I can say I have.'

These men and woman, our warriors and professional pilots, are our best and brightest fliers. They've been trained to fly under all kinds of conditions --and they fly with your life in their hands. They know how to identify everything in the sky.

When the professional pilots of America say they see an unidentified craft, believe them.

Joseph Capp
UFO Media Matters
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 6th, 2007, 1:55pm »

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UFOs AND OUR JAPERY


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By, Joe Capp
December 4, 2007

intr. To joke or quip.v.tr. To make sport of.n. A joke or quip.

Does This "Times" Quote Hit A Little To close To Home:

'But in invoking former Clinton White House chief of staff John Podesta's call for UFO glasnost, the Times described it as a 'demand that is as reasonable as it is unlikely to happen, given how easily this topic can be rerouted into japery.'

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20071203/BLOG32/71203006/-1/RSS1013

Do spokespersons like Dr Steven Greer At the 2000 X Conference makes us all look like Fools!

Do You Really Believe This?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhUMETBl4dQ

I am a UFO witness and I don't believe this.

I think the majority of the people who see UFOs do not believe this.

I also believe that a majority of the witnesses who believe in ETS on earth don't believe this.

Do we really expect to gain credibility when you have people like Dr. Greer sprouting all of this with no evidence (Where is the Beef Dr. Greer)?

Just because you work for the government doesn't mean you are telling the truth'dah!

I tend to believe in government conspiracies, but I think honestly, this type of nonsense hinders rather helps.

What do you think?

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« Reply #4 on: Dec 6th, 2007, 8:04pm »

Quote:
Do You Really Believe This?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhUMETBl4dQ


There is much that is not what it seems.

I cant say Greer is wrong, I dont know if he is right.

Who really knows what goes on in the Black Project Fascist world?
http://stargate007.blogspot.com/2007/12/disturbing-secrets-invisible-worlds.html

Maybe this guy is right?

It is almost pointless playing the guessing game.

Consider everything and believe nothing.
Real truth comes from with in ones self.
It will never come from the govt.

I am wary of just about everything I read, all is beyond my control except my reaction to fear and who, what, why, and how I love. I cant say I have no fear, but I am getting better everyday.

I cant explain this, but this forum feels like a no B.S zone.
I have had enough BS over the last few weeks, so I would like to say thank-you AC.
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on Dec 6th, 2007, 8:04pm, murnut wrote:
I am wary of just about everything I read, all is beyond my control except my reaction to fear.

You should be, especially in this realm. There's a ton of garbage out there in the UFO community. Read the story - let me get you the address.

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I cant explain this, but this forum feels like a no B.S zone.I have had enough BS over the last few weeks, so I would like to say thank-you AC.

Thank you and YES, that is the plan. I'm sick and tired of garbage being put on the Internet that is full of beezwax. New readers come on the Internet every single day looking to read about aliens and UFOs and they start believing that junk all over again because they can't discern right off the bat.

Anyway, I'll get that other address. Very good article written for the UFO Community in particular.
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« Reply #6 on: Dec 6th, 2007, 8:12pm »

Here it is. It's called appropriately, THE SHARKS OF UFOLOGY.

http://aliencases.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=report&action=display&num=1196945693
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on Dec 6th, 2007, 8:12pm, alien_contactee wrote:
Here it is. It's called appropriately, THE SHARKS OF UFOLOGY.

http://aliencases.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=report&action=display&num=1196945693


Yes, I read this last night, and I agree with much of it.
Would have been nice to mention some of the positive foreces at work as well.
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« Reply #8 on: Dec 7th, 2007, 2:08pm »

I felt it was understated because she never named names where I would have.

The whole idea is to show the bad, there's nothing wrong with the good.
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THE STRANGE WORLD
OF "PLANET UFO"


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By, Joe Capp
December 13, 2007


DANGER, WILL ROBINSON! DANGER, WILL ROBINSON! 'DANGER: YOU ARE APPROACHING PLANET UFO'.APPROACH THIS PLANET AT YOUR OWN PERIL'.

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'Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.' Arthur C. Clark

You hand in your ticket
And you go watch the geek
Who immediately walks up to you
When he hears you speak
And says, "How does it feelTo be such a freak?"
And you say, "Impossible"As he hands you a bone'Because something is happening here.
But you don't know what it is.
Do you, Mister Jones?
Bob Dylan

'It may be wolves taught early humans how to sing'
Fate Magazine Dec. 2007

Recently someone left a comment here on UFO MEDIA MATTERS about an 'insider' who explained the Greys were controlled by another alien intelligence, and were task oriented like insects. The person who made this comment was smart he kinda took it with a grain of salt:
England, who claimed he worked at Peasemore in an underground facility. He stated these things that Dr.Greer referred to were actually Greys they were made by and worked for other aliens' He stated that if you tried to prevent one from walking where it was supposed to it would move around you, and if you picked it up it would struggle to get free as if it was programmed to perform only its task.'

In a recent Linda Moulton Howe article, another 'insider' describes aliens designed with pincer hands.
Linda, you are being had.
In another few tid bits from Linda Howe web:

insider told a UFO researcher that someone told him:
'they had learned how to reverse-engineer from crashed spacecraft that they affectionately called Big Blue that was coming into Kirkland AFB at that time for new pilots to load on for training purposes.

Other insiders tales:
'Not only did that body not age, but there was something about being in the Alien craft that kept all the people who worked in it younger 'the same week that the scientists discovered the 'zombie Machine,' they brainstormed on what purpose the body could have'( a human that now was a 'ZOMBIE' implanted with alien organism).

John Lear, son of the inventor and founder of Lear jets, reveals from more 'insiders' that the ETS have a 'soul catcher' on the moon.

Exopolitics and Dr.Steven Greer's Disclosure Project and various New Age 'spiritual ET groups' are claiming that the ETS abducting and hurting humans are cloned and programmed by your local black-ops government group. The government has done this, of course, to convince the general public in advance of a WAR they plan against the aliens. This particular collection of groups tells us that all aliens are spiritually peaceful and waiting to help us...the only obstacle in the ETs' way stopping open, direct contact is evil America and other countries. According to them.

Then add to this the Hipster Trickster faction who say don't worry --it's only the projections from the collective conscious or some unknown trickster trying to blow your mind, like a hippy from the 60s. The Trickster group would, of course, dismiss the testimony of the death bed confessions of military officers who were witnesses at Roswell --who smelled the stink of alien decomposing bodies and handled the strange materials-- as just bad research.

Meet Abby Parker

UK resident DVD Garza 2003 International UFO Congress:
She resides not far from Simon Anderson also was entertained by aliens. Kind a nice they pick everyday people.

Finally, you have the Nuts and Bolts group who are certainly well-versed in the sciences: Vallee, Hynek and good old Stan. But if you combined all of them into one'you still could not come up with one good futurist. Jacques Vallee was also a science fiction writer, but he forgot his imagination on this one. These scientists were so conservative in their thinking that the idea of savvy ET species well versed in the humans psyche; how we think, act and react never crossed their minds'The Aliens had just got here because we exploded the A-Bomb was the thinking at the time.

Still other groups claim ETs --or at least their vehicles-- are all American secret weapons flying over major cities for fun.

But I suggest we're just plain 'human stupid' if we will not take into account that we have been out-thought.

Yep, hard to believe ETs have fooled us at every turn. Already knew our questions before we asked, and knew just how to leave them unrequited and unanswerable. Yet, after all of that, they're still exhibiting a major technological presence here' WOW!

But it seems there are still people in our government who do care about how secrecy in some quarters may destroy our nation:
At least some Senior CIA officials are willing to go public for some causes'and perhaps go to jail by breaking their security oaths and releasing to the public the true details of the NIE assessment of Iran's actual nuclear capabilities. Ready to go to jail for the right cause:
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/12/07/cia-analysts-willing-to-go-to-jail-to-ensure-nies-release/

One final note. I do believe something is evolving between ETS and humans. It may be the time has finally come:
Human Evolution Speeds up:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7132794.stm
Thanks to Anomalist

From what I've read about ETs and history, they seem preferred to make contact mostly with just your regular farmer.

So maybe first contact will not be with a big name vectoring in the ships while the power elites watch. Maybe first contact will be in a small village' with a lonely farmer' who then blows the mind of the whole world. That would be the Christian thing to do.

Planet UFO is a complex, strange and wonderful place. But, just remember, it's only a projection of your mind.

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WHEN VENUS TURNED OUT
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RUINED LIVES


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Joseph Capp
December 21, 2007

You're a deputy Sheriff in Portage Ohio sitting in the car watching for traffic while the electrical workers are fixing some down lines caused by a traffic accident. It is in the early morning hours. Next to you is your partner you chat back and forth while keeping your eyes open. The flares are out and your flasher is on. The guys on the pole wave to you . Your window is down, it's a nice warm clear April evening in 1966.

Hey is it possible if you could go down to Circles and get us some coffee. We know you guys love donuts
You look at your partner and wave at Jack the wise guy with your special wave. You shout back sure' as you laugh.

Circle Restaurant is only a couple of miles away. Maybe your can grab a donut. You laugh to yourself, typical.
You partner is all for it knowing going for coffee will at least break the monotony.

Years later you would pray for that monotony back.

Soon the world. The life the relationships the careers of these two police officers would be ruined forever and the government was the cause.

Providence or the good Lord helped one honest man to find the proof:

It was just a rather beat up car pulled over to the side of the road but it look like it belong to some kind of ham radio nut antennas were sticking out over the rear of the car. Inside you notice all of the radio equipment.. As you pass it you there seems to be an official insignia on the door. You look at your partner as you slow down I think we should have a look maybe someone in trouble'. You agree and you turn around. You pull up behind the car and approach from the driver side while you partner stays back on the other side to the rear.

You look on the door there is an insignia all right an oblong diamond with lighting bolts going through it. You don't remember any type of official car with those markings. No one is in the car as you look behind to make sure no one is approaching and that's when it raises above the tree, a bright object moves it is large maybe 50 feet across round. It's so bright you can hardly look at it. It hovers there and it's unlike anything you have ever seen. Then it starts to move away.

What the hell is that?' Your partner shouts.
I don't know but I am going to find out you reply, jumping into the car to give chase.

Eighty Six miles and two States later you watch as it flies away. Later you hear how two police Officers watch as jets were scrambled to chase intruders, later denied by Air Force.

The above case is very well known it was highlighted in Close Encounters Of Fourth Kind.' These Two Police Officers chased this object 86 miles through four counties and two States.

Project Blue Book conclusion on this very real case: The Planet Venus'

Debunkers point to this case over and over again to emphasize that even Police Officers can be fooled by the Planet Venus'. To be honest the planet Venus was in that part of the sky and sometimes Venus can appear to change colors and appear very big.

This policeman lost a great deal that evening. As far as the air force chasing it with jets debunkers claim point to the Air Forces constant denial that no jets were scrambled that evening. The debunkers laugh and point the accusatory conspiracy theorist finger at those who suggest they are being intellectually dishonest.

Well Project Bluebook was wrong they were not given the whole story neither was the UFO researchers.

How can I say that ? Well it is simple, it is true. A Deputy Sheriff' At the Portage Ohio County Sheriff's Office in 1985 was ask to clear out the basement found the original files from the case. Checking again with his superior he was told to through it out with the other stuff he kept it. In 2006 he e-mail MUFON. He was asked by James Carrion if he would present the evidence at the 2007 International Symposium.

The person who did this does not believe in space visitors which is fine with me, because he is a man of principle and has no agenda other then the truth.

The mans name is Michael M. Nelson is a hero. Why? Because the government help ruin the lives of these two police officers, for telling the truth, and that is not what our country is suppose to be about.

The New Evidence He Uncovered:
Police Officers Involved In UFO Chase: Deputies Dale Spaur & Dep. William Neff

1. Memo from Sheriff Dustman To Detective Dustman Smith Dated April 18 1966 Instructing the Detective That the sheriffs investigation was to be kept strictly confidential, it was not to be disclosed, to either the Air Force Or NICAP that an independent investigation was being conducted.
2. Letter from Congressman Gerald R. Ford he was aware of the case and was interested in learning more.
3. Tapes of Other Witness testimony to Police:
Betty Raymond waitress And Chuck The Cook at the Circle Restaurant:
I was taking break out front when I noticed a very bright light in the sky coming from the west it got closer and looked like on of those blimps. only going very fast, no sound. (object passed west to east in a matter of minutes too fast for any planet)

I yelled for the Chuck the cook to come out by now it was pretty close getting scared. I crotch down behind my new car and tried to see what it was doing Check said he could see a police car coming and they must be chasing the light it made our skin fell very hot like static electricity. Chuck jump behind the car yelling his skin and eyes were burning. A few moments after it passed a police car around the circle going very Chuck eyes and noise seemed red like suborn later that morning I found my ignition cap and wires were all burnt. the air force guys came by took names and addresses, they got here fast even before you, they had a beat up car(same insignia) we decided to tell them we only saw some strange lights wore dark suits warned us not to speak dire consequences told chuck not to go to the hospital for the burns they would heal in time shouldn't tell about the car very intimidating.

4. Physical Trace Evidence & Partial Lab Reports: (Thanks To Michael M. Nelson)

A reported circular area of burnt grass. Detective Smith used a civil defense survey meter to check for radiation high readings highest inside the circle seem of coal mineral on the suffice which runs for 300 feet samples taken.. the contact coal at 100 feet away nothing but at 16 feet away from the burnt circle coals were exposed to heat in excess of 2678 F. This sample indicating a volatilization effect.

5. Interview with Lt. Colonel from Youngstown Airbase who confirms 2 USAF F-102 jets were scrambled to intercept and identify the object being chased by the deputies. Later in Air Force report and NICAP reports this is completely discounted.

MJ12 Documents "exposed" as disinformation by Brad Sparks MUFON Member. My Position is: MJ12 Docs were put out there to divert attention away from Roswell investigators till all the witnesses past on and it could be sanitized

Both men were contacted by Michael Nelson. Both men had moved and gone into hiding. Dake Spaur lived in a Cleveland Suburb for a after his divorce he drove a taxi for a while, when Michael found him he reluctantly agreed to a interview. Officer Dale Spaur was dying in a hospice in Hospice in Iowa.

It took off, rose to 100ft moved from south to north over the road then back over it. It block out most of the sky and Venus behind I lost my job my friends my reputation just by telling the truth.

These two honest officers were smeared by the accusation they were chasing the planet Venus for 83 miles. they became the stuff of jokes.

Officer Dale Spur died it 2006

Michael M. Nelson book will be include the interviews from the officers, the Lab reports, what was found at the Ford library and much much more. I am looking forward to it.

Note: The above article: IN Pursuit Of Truth: The 1966 Portage, Ohio UFO Chase
November 2007 #475

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« Reply #11 on: Jan 7th, 2008, 05:29am »

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HUMAN-CENTRIC THINKING

Ok! So I'm guilty, too


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By, Joseph Capp
January 5, 2008

"..It keeps me searching for a heart of gold...and I'm getting old: Neal Young"


My wife has many occasions to add a roll of the eyes to the reminder: 'Who do you think you are -- the center of the Universe?'

I like to feel special.

You'd expect scientists to be above this 'we are the center of the universe' stuff, but they are just as guilty as the rest of us. Remember that famous Hubble photo said to reveal the beginnings of the Universe? It shows thousands of galaxies. My friend Gary reminds me often, 'Hubble shots are the equivalent of looking at the sky through a straw'. That's how little of the Universe was viewed, even with that wonderful, historic photo.

Remember, how for decades scientists would suggest --through various mathematical formulae that would soon be superseded by the next version-- how we could very possibly be the only life in the Universe? I always felt that was a little self-serving, since, after all, if we're the only life in this great Universe and humans are the most intelligent, then guess what group of humans are the most intelligent creatures in the universe? That's right: scientists are suddenly the top life form everywhere!

Many in the UFO community believe the evidence points clearly to aliens visiting us. A sub-group of this community will also suggest we are special in the eyes of the aliens, yes, that we are the center of their attention. I've heard many reasons for our specialness'from 'we have emotions and aliens do not,' or aliens lost their emotions eons ago''to 'we are the only species that have pets'' since it seems they don't have pets on the alien worlds. Sorry, Sasquatch!

A certain subgroup of cases now part of the investigative record includes individuals who seem like real abductees reporting a linked pair of rationales: we are so special to Aliens because we are so violent'and Aliens want to help us, but they can't interfere. By the way, not to disparage the witnesses of this subgroup, some of these cases seem to be real; I do believe ETS are telling these Abductees and Contactees what they are reporting'the contactees and abductees are not lying.

Philllippe Van Puten Brazil UFOs MUFON Conference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBInj6c6Tp0


The metaphysical / quasi-religious group are the strongest purveyors of these centrist human ideas.

Meanwhile, the collective consciousness group believes everything we see --from ghosts to UFOs-- is simply the collective mind at work, and that with the collective mind, we can even make these 3D projections solid so they leave behind solid evidence. Now that's such a great theory you don't even have to prove it--just spout about 'this theory of one' all over the place. Yep, that's the collective consciousness doing it.

Then we have the subgroup that's Christian who typically [not always, but mostly] claim ETs are demons and there is no argument, for this group believes we are the center of God's Universe, the one made just 6,000 years ago.

You can't get away from it --most of us humans, with one belief system or another-- still believe we are the center of the Universe.

You'd think that by now it would start to sink in.

Throughout the history of humankind up until 'The Last Scientist' (a future post) we have had courageous, free-thinking scientists who put their lives on the line because they believed in an idea, a truth: go where the evidence takes you --no matter where it takes you-- even unto death.

Some of what these courageous scientists have proven, to this day, has not truly sunk in emotionally. Most of us limit ourselves, via our human-centric beliefs, to fleeting glimpses of the bigger picture, the panoramic view.

We are on a spiral arm of the Milky Way galaxy. I'm not going to give you 'like the sands on a beach' bit again, but it's looking more likely that even all the ETS and their worlds are not the center of the Universe.

So wake up and Happy New Year: it's probably true that our Universe is not the center of all Universes.

And if you want to get into dimensions, hey, there may be 16 dimensions in this Universe. We don't know how many in the other Universes.

It's time to get humble about ourselves. I believe we can learn from the ETS --not as gods-- but as fellow travelers in this great expanse. For ETs to be here means a great deal in the scheme of things and the idea that they haven't blown each other up must give us solace that there is a shared awareness of higher values and a higher power, or Creator 'not just 'our' Creator.

Sadly, like everything else today which has been homogenized, we have no more really courageous mainstream scientists. What we have instead are scientists who only allow certain evidence, which points toward what they already believe, into their world.

And because they are scientists, sadly, theirs is the most powerful example of human-centric thinking of them all.

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« Reply #12 on: Jan 18th, 2008, 1:30pm »

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The Good American


The UFO Whistleblower


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By, Joe Capp
January 15, 2008

fellow travelers in space-time

''and I took it piece of the spaceship and I bent it and I twisted it and I laid it back down, and it went sound got right back to the same shape.'

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I am so tired of these two-handed bandits, these blog gurus who pontificate the truth from their computer thrones, who debunk UFOs with no regard for the human factor.

Here is my truth: June Crain was there.
June Crain had an 'above top secret' clearance.
June Crain typed secret documents and took dictation for the scientists.
June Crain kept 'the secrets' for 45 years.

What secrets did June Crain keep? June handled pieces from the Roswell crash, and was friends with the person who escorted the boxes of dead bodies by transport from New Mexico. Where could June have worked? June Crain worked at Wright-Patterson Air Base for over 10 years, 1942 to 1953. June's friend, 'Master Sergeant Clarence,' (she attended his wedding) escorted the alien bodies (not Japanese or German 'aliens') these were 'little green men' to the base. June was there, watching, as the engineers almost rolled on the floor laughing about the balloon cover story. The new management is probably still laughing.

What were the details? June knew there were pieces of 'space ships'; she personally handled the fragments. An Officer handed them to her. She tried to cut the piece or make a mark on it; she couldn't do it. She wrinkled it all up and it would smooth out to its original shape. Although rather thick, it was almost weightless. Where did it come from? The military officer's answer was 'New Mexico'. You can bet if June handled a piece of the 'space ship', then the scientists were privy to much more. She took dictation from the 'engineers' and scientists. She was one of the few who could understand their terminology. She was the fastest in dictation and typing of the support staff. They spoke of three crashes, for sure, all in New Mexico. At the time, the knowledge was treated as matter-of-fact. The scientists were obsessed with, and debated, the propulsion systems. They rolled their eyes and almost lost it over the Air force explanation.

The scientists and military liked June; she was pretty, smart, and took no bull. She started working at Wright Field when she was 17. Tough, she told one Colonel to 'kiss her ass' when he tried to skirt some rules. She was also instrumental in catching a spy. What a woman! She disagreed with our historians on one character at Wight Field. But I have a sneaking suspicion June is right --and the historians are wrong. Read the entire interview on PDF, unless of course, you take to the notion that our historians, like UFO skeptics, are always right.

Character ' June Crain forgot more about character than most of our web pontificators, including me, will ever know. Two bouts of Cancer, the death of a husband, almost lost a child to a drunk driver, and had financial problems to boot. So what did June do? She learned carpentry and built 15 homes for low income families. Later, when she retired, she continued to help her local community by raising the funds for the local library. This is a person, real, not some caricature designed by your local spin factory. I don't know, today maybe that just doesn't matter anymore.

For Fame - When June came forward, she came forward anonymously. She did this because the media and the Air Force made fun of the Roswell spaceship crash theory. She was getting very old and took it personally --perhaps because she personally handled a piece of the craft. Seven years later she came forward publicly. The second time she came forward, she did so because the Air Force cast aspersions on her esprit de corps, by claiming the alien bodies were parachute test dummies. June worked with the Parachute Corps at Wright Field, and she knew that was a lie. She loved those guys and watched one test where many soldiers died. This high-mortality test was kept secret. Even though seven years had passed, the story June first leaked remained the same. No matter what these skeptics and armchair quarterbacks like me say, some things are burned into your memory'you do not forget them. All of us regular folks know that.
I know our society and the media seem to believe that when you start getting old you should go 'gentle into that good night' as Dylan Thomas put it. Thomas' poem says, instead, we should 'rage'against the dying of the light.'
There was no way June was going to go gently, or in silence.
I hope if anyone reads this blog about June, and the explanations from Balloon Nuts or alternate theories given fifty years after the fact, they'll just take a moment to give June Crain --her unique story and her heroic life-- a second look. I doubt the skeptics will. They're never wrong, you know.

The interview is at the link below (PDF) with the MUFON link. Even if you're a non-believer, the intelligence history is rich and well worth the read.

*Jerome Clarkson, Senior Director of MUFON at the time, interviewed June Crain and verified her work and personal history. MUFON is an amazing organization made up of many volunteer members. I joined MUFON, and really enjoy the MUFON Journal with all the new cases of UFO experiences. Trained MUFON volunteers actually go and talk to the witnesses. What a novel idea.

The full June Crain interview in PDF
http://www.majesticdocuments.com/pdf/crain_clarksoninterview.pdf

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« Reply #13 on: Jan 19th, 2008, 07:00am »

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COMMERCIALISM IN OUR MIDST


UFO Media Matters
By, Joe Capp
January 18, 2008

Oh Lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Bens.... My friends all have Porsches I must make amends" Janis

Commercialism hurts the UFO researcher more than anything else. The books that keep researchers writing need to get sold, those same books keep researchers and fans going to conferences, and the Grand Theories of Everything keep the lecture circuit and radio shows humming so researchers can promote more books'And then there's the inevitable mistakes even the great ufologists will not admit to making, as they invest years and plenty of money pursuing the Grand Theory they inevitably get locked into, mistakes and controversies and all'

Isn't that how it works? All these facets of ufology --especially the books and the controversies-- turn out to be ways to continue a lifestyle.

If you really want to learn the secret of intimacy, I can say after thousands of mistakes, I know the answer. You think I'm going way off topic here? Stay with me. When you get intimate, when you really get to know someone and the walls come down, you learn the vast majority has some Light inside'and you learn, too, These same people have a little bit of the black. Look deeper and you will see yourself. People are gray.

So, the secret: people are gray. That's right, gray. UFO researchers --most of them-- start out as shining knights on a Truth Quest, but sooner or later, the gray seeps in. And I don't mean the little guys with bug eyes. I mean the gray of essential self-interest.

Even ufologists have to pay the bills.

And most scientists are gray, too --neither saint nor sinner. They have to have an approved line of research to secure funding, so the bills get paid. Even if they began their careers chasing Pure Science, chasing Truth.

Dr. J. Vallee the father of modern UFOs research quotes from Allen Hyneck who made an interesting statement about UFOs, ethics and religion and "how to make a million bucks"

VIDEO HERE - 2:55 AND DEFINITELY WORTH VIEWING

Same with the rest of us: brother-in-laws, sister-in-laws, sons, fathers, and presidents. Wait! Not mothers. Mothers are true believers, 100% Mom. No gray there, because Mom was never about self-interest.

But back to the rest of us. When the rank and file of scientists and witnesses are not a little gray, maybe that's when you have to worry. Do we have more to fear from that little bit of gray, or from the true believers? Maybe that's another blog.

When there is a perfect UFO research investigational system in place, I'll just go there for my information. But at this point, all we have is the streets and the gray people.

I found in the Sixties, the streets had some pretty damn smart people around and some of them could con the brightest minds I ever met.

Today we have the same thing happening in the UFO field. We of the street are armed and dangerous: handi-cams and double-digit megapixel cameras and cell phone videos of the everyday people out in the streets, all the grey people with their digital imaging arsenal who happen to be looking up at the sky to capture the strange craft. It's a dangerous thing because it's a sure thing. In the cheap digital cam age, real images of real craft are going to be captured. Often.

According to the professional debunkers, the people of the street can't be trusted. Debunkers claim these hoaxing villagers in Mexico are just pumping out the photos, selling to the highest bidder, say a 500 pesos bid from Maussan. Do I hear 1,000 from Garza?

Or could it be a little more complicated than Mexican villagers trying to hoax the millions of us Nortenos?

What if the South of the Border villagers are pumping out dozens, hundreds, thousands of real images of real craft --because many of those instances of craft sightings are really happening?

But what if, salted in among those real ufo images by everyday people--people just like us, but living in Mexico-- are some carefully hoaxed products, multiple faked image products planted among the massive numbers of authentic images? What if in that constant stream of real videos and snapshots taken by villagers and everyday people of the streets are fakes that almost look like the real thing but which will be somehow proven to have been staged, or altered and carefully distributed in order to be outed as fakes?

With the mass of digital images captured in Mexico, particularly, it would be so easy to insert and then spotlight a fake'or mount a big campaign spotlighting multiple fakes. But for every fake there are a 50 that are not and of great importance to the UFO enigma.

Wouldn't a couple of highly publicized provable fakes make it easy to put a gigantic dent in, or even destroy the growing popular support for images from the street --both North and South of the Border? In fact for me, that is exactly what has happened. So when anyone in the UFO community tries and make you think in black and white, think gray because the person telling you how to think is probably gray themselves.

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THE REAL UFO SECRET

DO NOT LOOK TOO CLOSELY OR YOU WILL BELIEVE


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UFO Media Matters
By, Joe Capp
January 25, 2008

Close Encounters --real close encounters-- are toxic to debunkers. Again and again through the decades, we continue to hear and read reports of detailed observations of UFOs: Saucers, Triangles, Cylinders.

Some of these shocking reports describe UFOs as large as cities, all viewed by multiple witnesses, with many viewed over long periods of time.

The Latest example of a close encounter with a detailed look was Ricky Sorrells, Metal Welder Machinist of Dublin, Texas, 8 miles west of Stephenville.

Linda Howe gave kind permission to quote from her great interview with him. Notice how he makes observations of his encounter using his own expertise and ends up with more questions than answers.

Huge Aerial Craft Over Dublin, Texas,
Longer Than 3 Football Fields

Ricky Sorrells felt like going deer hunting in the back woods of his Dublin, Texas. For some reason, I don't know what, I look up and look back down. I don't know what made me look up, but then I realized what I had seen with my eyes and immediately looked back up. There was this thing. It covered from - I could not see the edges in my tree canopy... I raised my rifle up and because I was in such a hurry to go deer hunting and knew I was going into the woods, I did not turn it (hunting scope) down from 9X to 3X. So, when I raised my rifle up, it's still on 9X. It was real blurry. I immediately turned down my rifle scope power to 3X and I looked back up there at it and I can see what I would call a mirage coming off of it. It wasn't steam. I don't know really - I've seen it like on a hot highway how the heat waves come up. And this was coming down I was not scared, so I dropped my gun. And then I really started noticing how big this thing was. I also noticed that it had these round indentations. They were in a grid pattern all running left to right, and front to back. They were all placed about 40 feet apart. They were deep, like maybe 4 to 6 feet deep into this craft. It basically looked like a piece of sheet iron that had been pressed. I couldn't see any nuts, no bolts, no rivets, no welds, no seams. I was really studying the structure of this trying to get an idea about how it was built - The holes, to me, are placed strategically at points equally spaced apart. They were big. I really don't know how big they were, but I'm going to guess. I'm going to say from where I was at, they were anywhere from they looked like 3 feet wide to me down on the ground, but I'm sure they were larger. Maybe 6 feet.

' 2008 Linda Moulton Howe
http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1377&category=Environment

Are we done talking Venus here, or should I go on? More After DVD.

Massive Motherships videoed by "NASA" DVD:Maussan & Garza "NASA Missions & UFO Incidents"

VIDEO-HEY IDIOT CAMERAMAN, NOT THE UFO!
Camerman has a sighting and forgets he works for NASA.
Maussan & Garza - NASA Missions & UFO Incidents


This man did not have a glimpse of something, he had a long term observation. Now this is interesting, but alone, it would mean very little; however, when you include all of the other thousands of very detailed close encounters reported every year, you start to question the phony answers the debunkers and the government give you, year after year.

In these recent Texas case, the large mother ship intrusions may be messages to our government. Our government certainly responds with jets, time and time again. This time they had to admit our military jets went aloft. Why? There were there so many people reporting them it would have been ridiculous to issue a public denial --again. So what do the military do? Kill two birds with one whitewash. The military jets were real and they were the UFO. Problem Solved!

But our government knows they can throw anything out there in the public domain and it will stick, like Yes there were jets out that night on a training mission that is what everyone saw go home stay calm don't think!
How could anyone buy that? I mean, jet fighters always sound like jet fighters. They're loud as hell. They don't hang around, and if they do, you immediately call the nearest airbase and start complaining because you know exactly what they are: JET Fighters.

What BULL!

By the way, for all of you, our secret weapon' answer to the UFO phenomenon advocates: if it was one of ours, why were the F-16s chasing it?

There are many close encounters like these on the intriguing list below, encounters that scream out for some sane explanation.

Peter Davenport at the National UFO Reporting Center kindly allows me to use a few here.

Palouse, WA*, December 29, 1994, Evening. A woman decides to take a short-cut home through a wheat field. Three wedge-shaped objects, with lights on their leading edge, pass in front of her car. Event frightened her badly.

Cordova, AK** - March 28, 1995 - Midnight : Woman sees object fly in front of her car several times in heavy fog. Suddenly, it stops and hovers just above her right fender. Several miles further along highway, she witnesses two discs on ground.

Eastern seaboard March 17 - 1997 - 19:00 hrs. (Eastern)An FAA Air Traffic Controller telephones NUFORC to report multiple sighting reports by airline pilots of metallic cigar tubes' tracking their aircraft for several seconds.

Longview, WA* - February 25, 1999 - 1158 hrs. (Pacific) Fourteen forestry workers witness a horseshoe shaped object lift an adult elk out of the forest and fly off with the apparently dead, or unconscious, animal.

St. Clair County, IL - January 05, 2000 - 0410 hrs. (Central) Officers from eight police departments witness, pursue, and photograph a huge, triangular object. Object “jumps” an estimate 20 miles in seconds. Scott AFB claims they did not see object.

Even During World War II, detailed encounters of these massive mother ships' were reported. Five Flying F4F Hellcats radar-detected fast moving objects they were scrambled to investigate. It is the summer of 1945. The pilots' descriptions follow:

it was bright and had a saucer shape like appearance. One pilot yelled over the radio - What the hell is that? None of the pilots had ever seen anything like it. The object was big...the size of three aircraft carriers put side to side, it was oval shaped very streamlined like [a] stretched out egg and pinkish in color. Some kind of vapor was being emitted around the outside edges from the portals or vents, the vapor was being discharged to form a cloud or disguise object hovered in a fix position for twenty minutes then went straight up and disappeared".

From the book: Strange Company, by Keith Chester

James Oberg's great retort to this type of sighting is "You know Pilots are not trained observers."

How long are we going to put up with absolutely ridiculous explanations for these mass sightings?

It is time for the debunkers, the media, the politicians and the average American citizen to realize something is flying in our airspace --something that can fly with virtual impunity anywhere in the world.

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Source: UFO Media Matters
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